Tunes generated by LLM bots should never considered as music.
Same thing my grand father says about EDM. Personally, if I can tap my feet to it, it’s music. I doubt you would be able to tell the difference in a blind test in any case.
Sure thing DJGPT, whatever makes you happy
I don’t think it belongs on platforms like Deezer but it’s silly to not call it music.You can hate how it’s made but the bar for something to be music isn’t dependant on the fact. Downvote me I guess.
On the contrary that soulless shit belongs to garbage platforms that is killing the music industry.
I am not debating with you what music means to me, please understand that MR. DJGPT
You really thought the DJGPT was clever enough to use it twice, huh?
Oh apologies if that offended you as i say in my language: كس اخت اللي نفضك
If I steal someone else’s song and put my name on it nobody reasonable would say I made it.
This whole AI-art fucktrain is entirely propped up by people who never made art before suddenly thinking they know something.
If I steal someone else’s song and put my name on it nobody reasonable would say I made it.
People were saying the same thing about sampling in hip hop. Yeah if you do a 1 to 1 copy of a song then that’s not making art but if you take elements from a song and rearrange them then that is.
And there have been a lot of discussions over the decades over artists/“aritists” who overly sampled a song and became orders of magnitude bigger than the original artist.
Its a balancing act. Most people aren’t going to get too annoyed if someone uses generative AI to help build a backing track or a beat to go with their song.
The issue is that so much of this slop is “make a song like this” from scratch. And while there is a lot to be said about manufactured acts and the role of major labels… one of the few good things about spotify et al destroying the music industry is that it has become so much easier for smaller independent artists to get a foothold.
And all this does is add more slop to push them back out. And the difficulties with detecting slop will mean people will be a lot less likely to ever check out a smaller band when they can instead listen to whatever the latest major act that beyonce et al vouched for is.
My issue is more about not calling it music. Imo, if it’s groovy and my brain enjoys it, it’s music.
There’s some music I seriously don’t enjoy as well but I still consider it music because someone does.
That being said, I don’t label AI stuff as “made”. I’m quick with making the distinction when sharing with friends and stuff. I agree with that part. Although it becomes blurry at times. Making something with samples is still making it, what about making it with AI generated samples? I don’t consider it stealing in any case, much too transformative imo.
I think we should separate the platforms but I’m not sure where certain things should land. It’s all music for me though.
Music is a weird art form, because something sounding familiar is very important to our ear. Many people have a really hard time liking music that is too foreign to their taste and end up sticking with only a select few genres.
Where familiarity is important, AI can deliver easily. I would think as much as we hate the idea, there is a pretty significant market for AI-generated music, specifically because it’s so predictable and follows convention to a tee.
I messed around with udio for a bit. What surprised me most is actually how easy it was to blend stuff together and have it sound fun. It does stuff that isn’t cookie cutter pretty well.
I think where it’s going to hit hard is in terms of personalisation. It’s nice that I can turn a song with a unique style into essentially a whole album of it. I also had a lot of fun writing my own lyrics. It hits harder when I wrote it and it’s specifically about my experiences, as well as listening to something close to professional quality, but it’s basically only for me.
It’s like having your own personal band waiting on you.
They are using DRM now. They clearly do not care.
Ya, right after getting bought out by a record company. Worst case scenario by far.
This (moreso for youtube music, since Deezer seems to not have a lot of East Asian labels signed) is a huge part of why I’ve been building out a selfhosted Navidrome.
Obviously there is the old school way of getting music. But Bandcamp is WAY more beneficial to the artists and ebay and Half Price Books are also awesome for grabbing music.
And combine all that with musicbrainz for scrobbling and discoverability of new bands.
I rrecently built a home server and tried getting into Navidrome, but I kinda disliked the UI - didn’t feel as intuitive to me and kinda clunky. How do you listen to your music primarily? If on a phone, do you have an app to stream the music to you?
Symfonium on my phone (so also android auto and just connecting to a bluetooth speaker while I cook) and Feishin on my desktop. Still need to verify that scrobbles are propagated correctly for discoverability purposes (so far it looks like ratings in Feishin aren’t propagated to the server).
I could probably have gotten away with just mpd but figured “why not?”.
I have no idea what Deezer is, and I’m afraid if I ask, somebody is just going to say “DEEZER NUTS!!!” and I will realize it was a big prank.
Music streaming like Spotify or Napster.
Spot deez nuts!
Nutster
You couldn’t infer from the headline?
