No, fuck the company, assessing responsibility should be a public matter.
The law should be designed to make sure that no worker is more afraid of their boss than of breaking it, and to ensure that the executives, board members, and stackholders making the company’s decisions (or implicitly endorsing them) are held responsible for their consequences.
Yeah, the actual purpose of the laws was to produce interesting (when involving Susan Calvin) or amusing (when involving Powell and Donovan) stories.
Still some form of protection for humans is needed.
If a robot (or any other corporate product or activity) causes injury everyone in the corporate chain of responsibility (especially board members and stockholders) should be criminally liable.
Fuck the robots. Remove advertising because it’s a cancer on society, by all means, but any robot that can’t deal with this kind of thing shouldn’t be allowed on the streets.
You don’t need to have read Kafka to know about Kafka.
Someone must have been telling lies aboutSome slop machine must have misidentified Josef K., he knew he had done nothing wrong but, one morning, he was arrested.
Only works for publishers or developers who have a page.
The scammers producing slop clones don’t (or would just have a different one for each game), so they can’t be filtered.
It also gatekeeps non-Americans, I assume; I had to puzzle out the meaning and while the name Gateway does ring a bell (I probably saw it on some ad or CRT monitor at some point) I’d have never associated it with the cow and box emojis. 🤷♂️
They have two options: fix it fast or die.
A store overrun by slop will quickly lose its customers, and with them any developers offering actual games.
Once the ball starts rolling it’ll become a vicious cycle, and once enough developers and customers have left there’ll be no coming back. And it certainly looks like the ball is picking up speed.
At least two of them, apparently, one with even the same exact name 🤮 (how is that allowed?).
Game’s not my cup of tea, but I tagged both clones as slop (can’t report them because none of the reasons would apply, as this kind of cloning is still legal), not that it’ll do any good.
Least Vave could do is add “blatant slop clone” to the reasons to report a game.
They aren’t letting slop roll over them
And yet it rolls.
A lot of developers have already pulled their demos from Steam for fear of them being cloned.
Either Valve takes a stance against slop clones, or they’re going to alienate indie devs (and probably the big ones too), and with them a lot of their customers.
Valve have to decide if they want Steam to be a thriving games store or an abandoned slop repository.
And “making no decision” is choosing the latter.
Not possible.
Think photocopy of a photocopy, or JPEG of a JPEG.
You start getting artifacts, and the model collapses.
Of course, though, they’ve already poisoned the well, and at this point it’s impossible for them to sieve out any remaining non-LLM-generated content. They started watermarking too late, and couldn’t recognise other slop machines’ watermarks anyway.
Model collapse is inevitable and already ongoing (search “thousand whys" on Amazon, for instance, or read up on Elias Thorne, lighthouse keeper), and will only get worse.
In a few years it will be impossible to train a working up-to-date model. Maybe it already is, hence this article, as a preemptive justification for why newer models won’t be able to generate code using language features introduced after 2026.
Dada as in Idi Amin Dada, I assume?
I mean, it fits, what with the human rights abuses and whatnot…
it shouldn’t be that impactful negatively that AI is being used
Doesn’t it invalidate the GPL? Open source licenses depend on copyright, and LLM-generated code isn’t copyrightable.
(Also, it can’t be proven not to contain plagiarised proprietary code, in fact it’s quite likely that it does; between this, the testing / review burden, and the mental decay of developers that use LLMs instead of coding, this pretty much kills open source projects, in several different ways to make sure they stay dead…)
Here’s the thing. What is it that an LLM does? I would argue, it sumarizes.
More or less, yeah. It produces text that reads like it would fit in its training model.
What do LLMs summarize, though…? The internet. Reddit.4chan.
Garbage in, garbage out.
Give it a corpus of text, and it can “understand” that data and extract “meaning” from it.
No it can’t. It can produce text that looks like it fits with it, but it has no knowledge of what its training data, its prompt, or its output mean.
LLMs don’t operate on meaning or information, they operate on the shape of texts.
The fact that they look like they work (as long as you aren’t an expert on the supposed subject matter of their output) would tell us much more about the nature of language and its readers, if we bothered to look, than the apparent meaning of their outputs, but of course the capitalist mind couldn’t care less about that, and given a dumb oracle that appears to give “good enough” answers can’t help but sell it as a superintelligent one that always gives perfectly accurate and correct ones, no matter the consequences.
Is that useful?
Not really, no. Maybe as a substitute for lorem ipsum if it weren’t so damn inefficient and morally unsustainable, but that’s about it.
“But the one remaining overworked not yet fired expert can review the output!” you’ll say, falling into the trap of treating the machine as a dumb but hard working intern instead of what it is.
Because the thing with interns is that when they produce garbage it looks like garbage, and the expert can immediately see it and teach the intern why it’s garbage and how to fix it. And eventually the intern will become an expert, and review and train new interns, and society will progress.
But when an LLM produces garbage it’s indistinguishable from correct output at first, second, and even third glance, even by the best experts.
Because LLMs might not have the slightest idea of what a text means, but if they’re good at something it’s at producing correct looking texts.
So the expert ends up wasting orders of magnitude more time trying to determine whether the output is safe or garbage… or simply gives up.
What’s worse, the LLM won’t learn. It won’t become an expert capable of replacing the old one and reviewing and teaching new interns, or obviously LLMs.
The expert will be fired, or retire, or die of overworking and heartbreak, and there will be no one to replace them.
No one to write new content to train new LLMs on.
And even if LLMs were capable of producing new content instead of merely lossly regurgitating their training data, which they aren’t, you can’t train LLMs on their own output. The model collapses. Photocopy of a photocopy, JPEG of a JPEG.
At the point in history when we need progress the most, to face and survive our own hubris from past abuses of nature, science, society, everything will stagnate, and then collapse, and the ignorant wretches who’ll have grown up in a world without teachers, not having to had to use their atrophied brains once in their lives, will ask their oracles “save us, what do we do!?” and the LLMs will reply “You’re right, I was mistaken. I apologize for the confusion. Delegating thought and knowledge to a machine inherently incapable of either might have been a mistake. My bad.”.
Doesn’t look very useful to me, really, quite the contrary… but I suppose I’m just not thinking in terms of the next quarter.
I don’t know, computers are pretty neat as long as you don’t turn them on.
As much as I hate the ongoing “AI” scam, and as many hours as I’ve wasted on Bethesda’s games (or on modding them), in Bethesda’s case (especially modern Bethesda) I actually believe the slop machine might actually be an improvement.
At least the code for the unofficial patches will be in its training set, which is a start…
Who pays for the damage is also a civil matter. Fine everyone in the chain of responsibility, up to and including board members and stockholders, scaling the fines in proportion to their wealth.
Need to fine the parasites on top billions so that they’ll feel it as much as the engineer who is fined hundreds? So be it, fuck them, they’re just as responsible if not more, and should have been taxed to the point of not being able to accumulate those billions anyway.