Hey now, let’s at least pretend to get the facts right…

It’s the federal organisation protects a persons right to get caught fucking animals enough to be legally prosecuted for it and then still join said organisation.

That’s way different.

Aw, so close, you were supposed to block me.

All you’ll get from me is words you don’t understand in sentences too long for you to keep in context.

Tell you what, you’ve been working hard, i’ll help you with this last bit.

There you go, I knew you could do it, well done.

ah,ok, i followed most of that and it makes sense.

Thanks for the explanation

Storing a childs’ tracing of the mona lisa in a vault is a form of preservation, doesn’t make it useful outside of very specific contexts.

That’s hyperbole of course, but slop conversions are a facsimile of greatly varying quality.

genuine question, how did you know it was byte identical if you only had a partial backup ?

That’s vastly underselling the importance of actual translation.

You are free to chose “nothing”, but I really do not understand why you would complain here.

All pro-llm arguments are prefaced with:

“If we ignore the massive environmental, ethical and moral issues with how they came about and are continuing to be served/developed then…”

The cost of LLM’s as a whole is a pretty reliable platform upon which to complain.

It’s not always useful, but it is always applicable.

See, this is the dedication im talking about.

You see more then one person disagreeing with you and suddenly it’s a bunch of alt accounts all ganging up on you.

It probably didn’t even enter your mind that you might be wrong.

Thats the kind of dedication to sub-par thought processes you just don’t see everyday.

Cursory check of account histories to see if they show any signs of overlap?

Hah, no, must be a conspiracy.

Re-read the comment chain, just in case you might have missed something?

Hell no, single user conspiracy against you is the obvious cause.

This is the kind of single minded pursuit of the “truth” that the internet is lacking nowadays.

I’d give you a slow clap but with your level of demonstrated perception, you might think in trying to attack you or something.

Anyway, good luck with life, sounds like it might be a bit of a struggle.

Edit: I realise that’s probably a lot of text for you to read in one sitting, don’t push yourself, if it’s too much, just reply with an excuse and block me. That way nobody will know. Mental health is important

Tripling down on that whoosh.

Thats a level of dedication you don’t see often these days.

For the compsci industries at least, it’s a productivity boost with moderate to extreme consequences in the middle to long term.

Not that that is a problem for CEO’s and companies that work quarter to quarter, but it will be a problem in 5-10 years when they have no senior workers to pick up/fix the problems that LLM’s introduce.

Or for the particularly dim-witted few in the short term who throw money at a problem they don’t understand while ignoring the people they are paying to advise them, thinking they can remove the “unpredictable” human element.

Unless, of course, the LLM’s improve so much in the runway each company has left, so as to eliminate these issues, i think it unlikely, but we’ll see.

It could be the loom or it could be laserdisc

i thought the religious cult was the government, or did they seize power later ?

i was talking more of the prosumer and close to prosumer units that could theoretically be retrofitted or housed in homelabs.

If datacentres went down en-masse i’d assume there’d be mix of hardware generations there.

Damn though, i didn’t know anything about the stuff you just mentioned, so my estimates of what could be available/usable are probably way off.

Now i have to go and do a deep dive, thanks.

Not strictly, there are usualy hurdles to overcome for home usage of datacentre tech, but it’s possible.

An easy example that comes to mind is that the datacentre GPU’s might have cooling configurations that rely on a large amount of airflow from the surrounding cabinet, which you’ll get in a datacentre, but not so much in a personal tower.

Also, noise, in a datacentre, noise is much less of an issue than in a personal computer, so they can eschew noise reduction in favour of performance.

Many people that live near data-centres would disagree, but i mean strictly from a usage point of view, not a broader community perspective.

What do you mean instead? why is what they are doing now insufficient ?

At this point i doubt they give a fuck what the general populace thinks, unless it affects their bottom line.

But you seem to want an answer, so let’s work through the “options”

This would depend on what their goals are.

Assuming they want to continue with their track record of maximum capitalism, their best option is to eat shit, and by that i mean do whatever the fuck they want and ignore anything that isn’t inline with profit/control.

Complaints from the populace, sure. Maximum profits, also yes.

If they really want to stop people complaining about them their best best would be to stop doing sketchy, illegal and unpopular things.

That wouldn’t stop all complaints, this is the internet, but it would probably bring it down quite a bit.

if they wanted partially rehabilitate their image over this specific instance of terrible PR, they could:

• Release the data of the scanned books directly.
  • if they can afford the lobbying and legal costs to ignore copyright for their environment destroying slop-machines^*1, they can probably afford the same for straight up releasing the scans.
• Use any of the myriad of non-destructive means of scanning books + release the books in to the wild after
  • More expensive, requires you to do something with the intact books after
  • See the previous comment about the affordability of lobbying/legal fees
• Not do this at all

*1,

“Environment destroying slop-machine”

&

“Useful tool in some circumstances, as long as you can personally square away the ethical and moral concerns”

aren’t mutually exclusive, if this is the hill you choose to die on you’re going to die mad about it.

That’s true, but sitting in a warehouse is costing someone money and I’m sure they were more than happy to sell the books even if they knew they’d eventually get destroyed.

Sure, thats a possibility, I wasnt arguing otherwise.

But the other thing is, what should these companies do instead? They scraped the internet and got skewered for that. They pirated books and got in trouble for that. Now they are legally purchasing books to scan.

For me, them doing sketchy and illegal shit, mostly getting away with it and then charging you for access to said ill-gotten gains is a valid reason for people to be upset at them, rage inducing, even.

That aside the equivalent of mass book burning isn’t a good look regardless of legality, even less so when its the same people that did the sketchy shit before.

There is no benefit of the doubt left.

I can see how someone could get to:

“all they do is sketchy shit so even though this might look legit, let’s vocally show our disdain for them and anything they are doing”

They aren’t in current circulation, not the same thing.

Not arguing that they are useful, just that sitting in a warehouse and physical destruction aren’t equivalent in terms of potential use.

Get them some nix

I’ve been in a car that lightly shook the steering wheel and pedals when you approached the speed limit.

That was super disconcerting because I didn’t know it existed until my steering wheel started moving on it’s own.

I meant the banking industry over leveraging themselves into extinction and then walking it off because if subsidies and bailouts