GreyEyedGhost

Well, you can reduce maintenance issues with the cooling system by using radiators and minimizing the amount of parts and eliminating the amount of moving parts altogether that have to be in direct contact with seawater. As I said above, I think the only benefit doing this has over the many others ways we can design data centers is data sovereignty, which isn’t a good reason imo. My whole point in this thread was that there was no new technology or major development to make this happen.

Now you’re just being obtuse.

The design for coastal barges would work as well in deeper ocean, and the containers already have cooling systems in place. As I said, the only legitimate reason for deep ocean or space data centers is data sovereignty. The rest is just excuses or harder than the existing options. Which is why no one else is doing it and the reason Elon would.

developing new technology

This isn’t as hard as you want to believe, nor would it require a brand new ship. If you want to do coastal designs, there are already some in place. If you want data sovereignty, the only real benefit of space data centers, a small cargo vessel with container data centers and one or more onboard generators could do this. Fueling it would be a challenge, but no more than all the issues with a space data center. As for time constraints, this would still be faster to deploy than any space-based solution.

None of this makes it a good idea, just not particularly novel, difficult, or time-consuming.

This isn’t a new idea. This is a problem that every nuclear sub deals with. From what I can gather, fresh water runs inside the reactor in two separate zones, and after powering the steam turbine goes into the condenser which is cooled by seawater.

However it works, this problem has been solved for decades.

Yeah, me being sure Blender had been open source since forever ago made me open the article. Now I have to get out of the basement and bathe.

Nope, I just don’t think humanity has learned everything there is to know, that carbon chemistry is required for sentience (and even if there was, that it couldn’t be incorporated into a computer), or that there is some mystical thing some people refer to as the soul.

We can build different kinds of machines.

So if soil and cow patties aren’t sentient, yet people are, you’re acknowledging that the substrate doesn’t determine the capability, but more how it’s arranged?

Until the Wright brothers came along, most people thought heavier-than-air powered flight wasn’t possible. Less than 70 years later, people were walking on the moon. 4 million years ago, there wasn’t anything capable of building either of those things, even though there is good evidence creatures back then had creativity, dreams, and ingenuity. Assuming things can’t advance further is either hubris or abject ignorance.

Linus is 56. You think he’ll still be actively maintaining Linux into his mid-70s?

To add on to what others have said, case law has pretty much settled on the point that streaming isn’t a legal issue, provided no money is involved. Downloading can still be an issue, but not as bad as it can be in the US. If you’re using free streaming sites and don’t use the download option, you shouldn’t have any legal issues. I have been using free streaming sites for years on a few different providers, and the only notice I’ve received in the last decade was when my kid pirated a game without VPN.

Commercial products can’t do this from a business case level. There are ways you can achieve this on a technical level, but it is very much DIY at this point. I hope to slowly implement this over the next while until I have a system that works for me, uses no cloud or corporate servers, and is possibly accessible from outside my home (that’s a security challenge and I may not be up to it).

Upvoted because more people need this inflicted upon them.

No, for two reasons. First, there are already two Steve Apples, from the same time, no less. Second, because we don’t really want one of those Steves back. Great marketer, shit person.

The 2025 and later versions of the Kia and Hyundai EVs use heat pump technology, as do some or all Subaru EVs. At least they do in Canada. I’d be unsurprised if more did. I bought an old Leaf, which has a number of limitations, but does well as a second car or a city car. If I can convince my wife to replace her SUV with an electric, heat pumps will be part of the reason why.

Username does not check out.

Win2k was the NT line, which was generally more stable than the main Windows line, but couldn’t play games well and didn’t have any real consumer penetration. WinNT 3.1, 3.5, 3.51, 4, then Win2k (the first server version to not use standard version numbers), then WinXP, which was the version that merged the home and workstation/server lines, but also continued the home version tradition of sucking badly every other version. Vista, 8, and now 11 fall into that list.

I did use 2k back in the day and while it wasn’t as good as XP, it was a serviceable work platform. Don’t ask me about any issues on the server side, I did very little with that.

Win98 was trash, which is why Win98SE was a free upgrade. Now you may have meant SE, but those are distinctly different versions, which is required to follow the rule of every other OS release being trash. SE was followed by ME (trash, recommended daily reboot), followed by XP (good, merging of the NT and old windows line, still able to play most games with the compatibility layer, 3 GB Memory addressing, etc.).

This is the thing - with advanced systems, which they should all be now, context can drive behavior.

Similar happened to me when I was on Starlink. Strongly worded letter to say don’t do it again or further action would be taken. I told my adult kid to smarten up and make sure to use a VPN when tormenting games (which he already knew). Haven’t had a letter since.