• stumu415@lemmy.zipOP
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    7 months ago

    Besides drug approval, which is not a measurement in itself, I can attest to this. A large German pharma, has increased their head count from 7 to 40 within a year. They bought a local pharma for 1 billion US dollar and at the same time closed a US facility. The same goes for many other pharmas. You can say what you want about China, but they are investing heavily in science. Because they believe in science. Unlike the current regime of the US.

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      I still don’t really trust China, it’s more reliable than the US regime (minus Democratic areas) rn, but still, that’s a low bar.

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        7 months ago

        I’m sure they will carry on the world hegemon tradition of being generally contemptible.

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          Both suck but in different ways, meaning that there are lots of ways in which China is better than the USA and lots of ways in which the USA is better than China.

          Politics is multifaceted, “better” depends on many things and is not a very good general descriptor.

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          Adding green energy at 8x the rate of the USA with a total of 3.89 terawatts, which is 3x larger than the entire USA energy grid, and accounting over 30% of the worlds spending towards green energy while the USA has less than 25% of the grid as green energy

          Essentially ending homelessness

          A notably lower prison population than the USA despite like 6x the population

          A minimum wage set by provinces who are heavily encouraged to give increases every few years tied to inflation and cost of living

          Actually working to shift a fee for service healthcare system to a socialized model with significant progress occurring

          No airstrikes, bombings of another country, or declared wars since 1979. Even in terms of proxy wars post 1979 has been far more about economic support and diplomacy than shipping weapons

          Etc etc but yes Xi and Trump are equivalent because they have a social credit score and government surveillance. That’s definitely not like the America, who has just normal credit scores, palantir, and a large chunk of your tax money funding proxy wars (and now actual war) instead of maintaining critical infrastructure or any quality of life improvements for its people.

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              It doesn’t, but it has an unapologetic mass surveillance. In China, you use apps on your phone for absolutely everything and anything: all payments, use of public transport, shared bikes, ordering food, etc.

              If you say something wrong, or if you’re just in a group chat where someone repeatedly say the wrong thing, your account can be suspended and suddenly you can’t do shit for several days. That keeps people in line, or they find other tricks to communicate, like swapping key words to trick the algorithms, or use VPN, though it’s also forbidden.

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      Eh, ymmv. Did you know they defunded BioNTech? The developers of what is now the Pfizer Covid vaccine? Covid vaccine research is desperately needed (see vaccine injury) but there is no funding.

      Many EU countries are defunding science. Being a researcher is an absolute nightmare. Brussels is receiving tons more applications for funding because researchers aren’t getting money from their own government anymore. University departments are being shut down.

      People who have been doing scientific and medical research for decades are finding themselves on the streets.

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        The last thing I heard about Biontech is that the couple founding the company got crazy rich, figured out they don’t like being CEOs of a large company, and founded another small research lab with their money.

        Besides, it is a private company, sure, they got government grants and funding especially during Corona, but I don’t think we should give random companies fucktons of tax money in normal circumstances. At least not while we’re doing the whole market economy capitalism thing.

        That does not mean that science funding isn’t getting cut, I am still a bit salty that it removed my chances of getting a phd. Fighter jets and tanks aren’t free, and neither is pissing billions into the wind because you refuse to persecute fraudsters.

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        BioNTech is definitely not defunded in China. Besides BioNTech, there are more local pharmas working on mRNA. BioNTech have a license / working agreement with BMS worth 2 billion dollars mainly for a mRNA cancer vaccine. Mostly handled in China - again. Because in the US as a scientist you’ll be defunded if you use the word mRNA in your documentation.

        It is generally fucking nuts to block what could be one of the major cancer treatments of the near future.

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    As one of the people who lost their job, doing important & worthwhile work, directly due to the funding cuts of this current administration, I only have a few words: FUCK YOU okay that’s two. So, let’s add PEDOPHILES to the end. FUCK YOU PEDOPHILES.

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      As the wise Ricky would tell them - Fuck, pretty easy to understand. Off, real easy to understand. Fuck off!

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      two technically counts as “a few”, but i’ll allow the addition

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    7 months ago

    This dude thinks aspirin causes autism but then complains we’re not approving enough drugs. That tapeworm really did a number on this guy.

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    That’s so unexpected and weird, did the severed dead raccoon penis not help at all??

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      7 months ago

      Was about to make a similar comment lol, you beat me to it. So wild, who in there right mind would say to themselves “I’m gonna cut off that dead raccoons penis for research, ya research “

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        It’s so so much better when you see the full quote. He thought he was the normal one in his family lol. Keep in mind this is his own words from his diary.

        “I was standing in front of my parked car on I-684 cutting the penis out of a road killed raccoon, thinking about how weird some of my family members have turned out to be."

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    I’m sorry, you have misunderstood his words, he doesn’t want better drugs or safer drugs, he wants more drugs approved, fewer hurdles to sell his buddies snake oil

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      This is the point everyone misses. Hes not asking for more medical research to be done, hes asking for the standards for approval to be lowered or eliminated.

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    that’s a weird metric to look at because drug approval happens only like, 5-15 years after end of preclinical research, sometimes longer

    clinical trials also take fuckton of money but this might be also post-2008 cuts that we only see effects of now

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      RFK Jr would like to remove scientific scrutiny from the drug approval process, which is the agenda of pharma companies. He’s already been successful with this in the med device space using the same argument.

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      It is indeed not the current administration that led to this.
      It certainly won’t help but that is not the cause, neither is the 2008 one.
      China has been advancing in plenty fields for a few decades now.
      They have already caught up or surpassed others in plenty fields.
      Americans are clinging to their USA nr 1 mantra, but that’s delusional.
      They refuse to accept to the fact they already have been beaten and there is nothing they can do about it.
      Despite banning and sanctions China has a massive lead in nearly all crucial tech fields.
      The gap will only become bigger.

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        The funniest thing is that all the while China is the largest creditor of USA by far, and USA has had foreign investment pouring in overall all those decades.

        USA had the money not just to maintain but rapidly advance, and a head start. To bite the dust in this situation is some serious incompetence.

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          It wouldn’t be this bad but they would’ve lost either way.
          China has 4x the population.
          They can spend more money from their healthy economy while the US is declining.

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    I FIRED all our Scientists and DEFUNDED all our Research because I THOUGHT it would IMPROVE our Research Capabilities!

    -NOT DEI hires!

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    Is he not directly responsible for defunding a lot of the research and programs that would have helped here? Weird that Captain All-Natural cares about having less drugs than China.

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    The regime cannot fail, it can only be failed. Those scientists were supposed to do their job of finding evidence for whatever possibly non-metaphorical bug RFK Jr has up his ass on a given day. 🙄

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    They are eating the cats and dogs and also our lunch of the people who live there.

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    Interesting, what would People for Ethical Treatment of Animals say about it? AFAIK, they have great success in stopping animal experiments… #vegans, comment please